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I profiled the KEF Concept Blade speaker here, but since there's only one pair in the world, there was no way for me to hear it until the company brought it to CES and set it up in a room at the Hilton with an Audio Research CD5 CD player and DSi200 integrated amp. Listening to Patricia Barber in a live recording and a tenor sax with rhythm section, it sounded quite good overall, with very clean, tight low bass, but the upper bass and vocal range was slightly congested. The KEF rep agreed and said it was the room, and I couldn't disagree—hotel rooms generally make lousy listening environments.
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ε, καταλαβαινεις τωρα....
τι να σου πει τωρα ο ανθρωπος, οτι φταινε οι ενισχυτες η η πηγη η τα καλωδια?
Οχι αυτος ειναι τοσο μαγκας που καταλαβε αμεσως οτι φταινε τα ηχεια...

παρολα αυτα τα ηχεια δεν επαιζαν και πολυ καλα ενω ο χωρος ηταν απαραδεκτος. αυτα απο καποιον που πηγε...
 

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παρολα αυτα τα ηχεια δεν επαιζαν και πολυ καλα ενω ο χωρος ηταν απαραδεκτος. αυτα απο καποιον που πηγε...
τα εχω ακουσει πολλες φορες στον απαραδεκτο χωρο του αντιπροσωπου και παιζουν της παναγιας τα ματια...
 

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Από ότι φαίνεται πάντως όλοι με AMARRA έπαιζαν, ε δεν μπορεί κάποιος λόγος θα υπάρχει. :126:


"Notice the iLok to the right, yeah Amarra was in the room making music. Actually, just about anyone using a computer for playback was using Amarra unless their DAC was based around their own proprietary software."

και από ότι φαίνεται ήταν πολλοί:

"The trend is clearly heading towards computer-based systems (lots of USB DACs and associated products)"


 

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Καλά έβαλαν και φωτάκια στα καλώδια? Αυτό το σύστημα θα ήθελα να το ακούσω:


Η συστοιχία των άνωθι εικονιζομένων καλωδίων στέκει ως αποτέλεσμα πολυετούς ερεύνης ανά την υφήλιον πανεπιστημιακών προγραμμάτων και επιστημονικών ερευνών...

To δημιούργημα συνίσταται εις την ειδικήν πλέξιν των καλωδίων, τη συνοδεία καταλλήλου φωτισμού, ίνα σχηματισθεί διαστημική σήραγξ, επιστημονικώς καλουμένη 'σκουληκότρυπα'...

Ως αποτέλεσμα της ανωτέρας πρωτοπόρου τοπολογίας, ο ήχος διερχόμενος της καλωδιακής σήραγγος, τη βοηθεία των ηλεκτρονικών, αλλάζει πορείαν προς το υπερπέραν, ταξιδεύων τον τυχερόν ακροατήν εις κόσμους μακρινούς και απροσίτους, παρασύρων αυτόν εις τας πεδιάδας και τα δάση της μουσικής απολαύσεως...

Εξαιρετική προσοχή απαιτείται εις τον τερματισμόν και την τοποθέτησην των καλωδίων ίνα μή χαλαρά όντας αποκολληθώσι και διαταραχθεί η συνέχεια της σήραγγος(σκουληκότρυπας) με αποτέλεσμα την βιαίαν επιστροφήν του ακροατού εις την ψυχράν και πληκτικήν πραγματικότηταν...
 

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Η συστοιχία των άνωθι εικονιζομένων καλωδίων στέκει ως αποτέλεσμα πολυετούς ερεύνης ανά την υφήλιον πανεπιστημιακών προγραμμάτων και επιστημονικών ερευνών...

To δημιούργημα συνίσταται εις την ειδικήν πλέξιν των καλωδίων, τη συνοδεία καταλλήλου φωτισμού, ίνα σχηματισθεί διαστημική σήραγξ, επιστημονικώς καλουμένη 'σκουληκότρυπα'...

Ως αποτέλεσμα της ανωτέρας πρωτοπόρου τοπολογίας, ο ήχος διερχόμενος της καλωδιακής σήραγγος, τη βοηθεία των ηλεκτρονικών, αλλάζει πορείαν προς το υπερπέραν, ταξιδεύων τον τυχερόν ακροατήν εις κόσμους μακρινούς και απροσίτους, παρασύρων αυτόν εις τας πεδιάδας και τα δάση της μουσικής απολαύσεως...

Εξαιρετική προσοχή απαιτείται εις τον τερματισμόν και την τοποθέτησην των καλωδίων ίνα μή χαλαρά όντας αποκολληθώσι και διαταραχθεί η συνέχεια της σήραγγος(σκουληκότρυπας) με αποτέλεσμα την βιαίαν επιστροφήν του ακροατού εις την ψυχράν και πληκτικήν πραγματικότηταν...
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Κι έλεγα εγώ να φτιάξουνε νωρίτερα τη σύραγγα στα Τέμπη, αυτοί δεν ακούγανε κι έγινε η κατολίσθηση... :143:
Δεν βλέπουν εδώ που το High End... μπήκε σε μιά τάξη...

Αντί να φωτίζουν πίσω από τα συστήματα, φωτίζουν τα συστήματα... με αποτέλεσμα να "ακούει" ο εγκέφαλος το σύστημα και όχι τη μουσική!!! :111:



Η μ@λ@κία πάει σύννεφο τελευταία...
 

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Κι έλεγα εγώ να φτιάξουνε νωρίτερα τη σύραγγα στα Τέμπη, αυτοί δεν ακούγανε κι έγινε η κατολίσθηση... :143:
Δεν βλέπουν εδώ που το High End... μπήκε σε μιά τάξη...

Αντί να φωτίζουν πίσω από τα συστήματα, φωτίζουν τα συστήματα... με αποτέλεσμα να "ακούει" ο εγκέφαλος το σύστημα και όχι τη μουσική!!! :111:



Η μ@λ@κία πάει σύννεφο τελευταία...


Τι σύννεφο?
Μιλάμε για εργόχειρο.
 


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Η συστοιχία των άνωθι εικονιζομένων καλωδίων στέκει ως αποτέλεσμα πολυετούς ερεύνης ανά την υφήλιον πανεπιστημιακών προγραμμάτων και επιστημονικών ερευνών...
To δημιούργημα συνίσταται εις την ειδικήν πλέξιν των καλωδίων, τη συνοδεία καταλλήλου φωτισμού, ίνα σχηματισθεί διαστημική σήραγξ, επιστημονικώς καλουμένη 'σκουληκότρυπα'...
Ως αποτέλεσμα της ανωτέρας πρωτοπόρου τοπολογίας, ο ήχος διερχόμενος της καλωδιακής σήραγγος, τη βοηθεία των ηλεκτρονικών, αλλάζει πορείαν προς το υπερπέραν, ταξιδεύων τον τυχερόν ακροατήν εις κόσμους μακρινούς και απροσίτους, παρασύρων αυτόν εις τας πεδιάδας και τα δάση της μουσικής απολαύσεως...
Εξαιρετική προσοχή απαιτείται εις τον τερματισμόν και την τοποθέτησην των καλωδίων ίνα μή χαλαρά όντας αποκολληθώσι και διαταραχθεί η συνέχεια της σήραγγος(σκουληκότρυπας) με αποτέλεσμα την βιαίαν επιστροφήν του ακροατού εις την ψυχράν και πληκτικήν πραγματικότηταν...
Ελληνικό: http://www.clab.edc.uoc.gr/aestit/3rd/contributions/59.pdf
Κι έλεγα εγώ να φτιάξουνε νωρίτερα τη σύραγγα στα Τέμπη, αυτοί δεν ακούγανε κι έγινε η κατολίσθηση... :143:
Δεν βλέπουν εδώ που το High End... μπήκε σε μιά τάξη...
Αντί να φωτίζουν πίσω από τα συστήματα, φωτίζουν τα συστήματα... με αποτέλεσμα να "ακούει" ο εγκέφαλος το σύστημα και όχι τη μουσική!!! :111:
Η μ@λ@κία πάει σύννεφο τελευταία...
Μιά περίπτωση στην οποία η ακουστική αντίληψη υπερισχύει της οπτικής:
http://www.cns.atr.jp/~kmtn/soundInducedIllusoryFlash2/index.html
Τι σύννεφο?
Μιλάμε για εργόχειρο.
[reliops=Rubber hand illusion][youtube]TCQbygjG0RU[/youtube][/reliops]

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Από ότι φαίνεται πάντως όλοι με AMARRA έπαιζαν, ε δεν μπορεί κάποιος λόγος θα υπάρχει. :126:
Υπάρχει, Μιχάλη μου.
Είναι ο μόνος τρόπος (προς το παρόν, τουλάχιστον) να ακούσεις σοβαρά με Mac. :116:
 

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Πάμε μερικά ενδιαφέροντα updates ακόμα από το Stereophile...
Τα νέα Atlantic έκαναν καλή εντύπωση και ιδιαίτερα το χαμηλό τους. Κάτι ήξερε ο Oppoστολος!



"So what you think our new AT1 loudspeaker will cost?" Atlantic Technology's Peter Tribeman had just finished his dem of a fairly small two-way tower that, driven by Parasound Halo JC 2 preamplifier and Halo A21 power amplifier, was producing prodigious amounts of low frequencies in a fairly large room.

"I have no idea," I responded, "but if it's less than $2500/pair, you'll have a hit on your hands."

"We're aiming at at $1999/pair!" said Peter.

The AT1 uses two 5.5" woofers, tuned to 63Hz, but loads them with an alignment developed by Phil Clements, called "HPAS," which extends the low-frequency cut-off to 31.5Hz, and –3dB at 28Hz. HPAS is neither sealed-box, nor reflex, nor transmission-line, but incorporates aspects of all three to resemble a"controlled explosion" at low frequencies, explained Peter, leaving me none the wiser.

But hearing is believing, and based on what I heard at CES, at $2k/pair, the Atlantic Technology AT1, which will start shipping in the spring, will indeed be a winner.
 

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H επιστροφή των ladder DACs...

MSB Platinum DAC Line



MSB is not messing around at this CES. The company has announced a stack of new products, including the DAC IV variations seen here (from the top): Signature Platinum DAC IV starting at $13,995, the Diamond DAC IV starting at $25,995, the Platinum DAC IV starting at $5,995, and the Platinum Power Base to keep them running.

MSB's Larry Gullman was on hand to explain that these new DACs are 32 bit/384Khz capable, can have either a USB input or iPod dock added, and are available in either black or white finishes. I especially thought their four corner isolation system was ingenious, allowing you to stack as many units as needed, while keeping each product fully suspended.

Other new products at the show include the Platinum Data CD IV Transport 384khz/32bit high resolution disc player at $2,995, iLink Integrated Transport at $1,995, 2 ch. and 8 ch. Platinum Studio ADC 384khz.32bit high resolution ADCs starting at $14,995, and the M202 200wpc Class A monobloc amplifier at $17,500.

In addition, MSB is busy pushing digital audio so far out that they've had to create their own networking scheme to keep up with the data. Built around the same CAT-5 cables and connectors used for ethernet, the company says the "MSB Network" is a high bandwidth, low jitter, multi-channel, digital interface, which supports both DVD-Audio and SACD in their full resolution native formats. MSB's implementation of I2S can run at 88.2, 96, 176.4 or 192 kHz with 32 Bit Resolution and up to 14 channels of PCM plus 6 channels of DSD.



Here is some serious DAC porn: The MSB Signature Platinum DAC IV with its top off to reveal four 24 bit Discrete 3MHz Four Quadrant Ladder DACs.
 

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Evolution and darTZeel



As John Atkinson and I entered the room at THE Show in which darTZeel electronics partnered Evolution Acoustics loudspeakers, I was immediately struck by the fullness of the midrange. It was as though the system was opening its heart and welcoming us in. That's how warm and nurturing the sound was.

What was especially wonderful was that this system was about far more than midrange. From a very open, clear and realistic top all way down, the darTZeel/Evolution Acoustics system sang true. And beautifully. Very, very beautifully.

First we listened to a favorite audiophile demo, tenor José Carreras singing an excerpt from Ariel Ramirez's Misa Criolla. The air around voices and instruments was as wondrous as the clarity of playback.

Then came something very, very special. But first, a description of the system.

This not exactly bargain-priced system consisted of darTZeel’s new NHB-458 monoblocks, whose 1000Wpc will set you back a mere $135,000/pair, and the darTZeel NHB-18 NS reference preamplifier with MC phono section ($29,000). Speakers were the brand-new, just introduced Evolution Acoustics MMtwo loudspeakers ($35,000/pair). Weighing 375 lbs each, these gorgeous babies claim a frequency response of 10Hz–40kHz ±3dB, and a sensitivity of 93dB. They also sound marvelous.

The rest of the system comprised Evolution Acoustics' DRSC speaker cables ($5000/pair), the LINK-Reference 50 ohm BNC–BNC interconnect ($6000), and PC2One power conditioning power cord ($2000). Playback was from either a Playback Systems MPS-5 Reference SACD/CD player with 24/192 input ($15,000), or the world-premiered Music Servers Direct MSD-1 Reference Music Server ($1995) controlled by an Apple iPod Touch. Other goodies included the Audience Adept Response aR6-T power conditioner ($4600).

Yes, it was an expensive room, filled with equipment I cannot possibly afford. But it's not about me, John, or Stereophile; it's about the music that gives us joy, and the equipment that brings it to us in all its glory.

After the Carreras track, Jonathan Tinn of Evolution Acoustics began telling John how much he loved listening to a track from one of John's recordings, Cantus' While You Are Alive. (Stereophile's newest reviewer, long-time audiophile Erick Lichte, was Music Director of Cantus at the time of the recording and produced the CD). As the conversation grew more animated, I quietly mentioned that I just happened to have the CD with me.

I cannot begin to tell you how it felt to enjoy John's energy as he immersed himself in two tracks from one his finest recordings. What I can tell you was that the sound was little short of heavenly.
 

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Και ένα update αφιερωμένο στον vastsar.. ;)
Nέο VMPS που μόνο καφέ δεν ψήνει...



It was great to hear the sound of VMPS' new M50 loudspeaker ($12,000/pair), amplified by Atmasphere electronics. The set up was all Audience Conductor e cables and powerChords, and the electronics were powered through an Adept Response aR12-T power conditioner. The speaker, a dual line-source bipole, is 6' tall, weighs 350 lbs., and has built-in digital speaker and room correction plus digital crossovers. It also sounds excellent, faithfully reproducing the timbre of the voice and the instruments that accompanied Lesley on "Summertime" before we arrived.
 

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Νέοι Classé..
Ο Atkinson χαρακτηρίζει το setup με τους συγκεκριμένους τελικούς και τα νέα B&W ένα από τα highlight της φετινής CES (ηχητικά πάντα).



Some products at CES—all-black products, with black highlights, and with the lettering tastefully done in black, in a darkened room—defeat all but the most-determined photographers. So my thanks to Larry Greenhill for managing to photograph the new Classé CTM600 600W monoblock amplifier ($6500 each).

The CTM600 has an effective forced-air cooling system, with fans on the rear panel controlled by a microprocessor to ensure that the amplifier quickly reaches its operating temperature, then stays there despite how much power it is called on to deliver. Air is drawn in through an artfully concealed slot at the front and pulled through two horizontal heatsink tunnels that run from front to back. But what is even more impressive about this amplifier is that its unweighted audioband S/N Ratio is an extraordinary 135dB ref. full power. TThe CTM joins the very few amplifiers that have a dynamic range equivalent to that of a hi-rez recording.

A 300Wpc stereo version is available in the same chassis as the CTM600 and also costs $6500, while a smaller 300W monoblock will costs $5000 each.

Listening to a CD of Government Mule playing blues, with a pair of CTM600s driving B&W's new diamond-tweeter 802 speakers in Classé's suite at the Mirage, I was struck by the awesome, effortless dynamics of the sound—a highlight of the 2010 CES for me.
 

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Rockport Alya.
"Προσιτό" Rockport με Be tweeter της Scanspeak και Audio Technology midbass.
Βάζω στοίχημα ότι θα παίζει ψιλο-καλά...



I have come to expect innovative engineering from Rockport's Andy Payor, and was not disappointed by his new Alya loudspeaker. The two-way Alya costs $29,500/pair and marries Scanspeak's new beryllium-dome tweeter with a custom Audio-Technology woofer with a 6.5" carbon-fiber cone and a 2" voice-coil. The front baffle is aluminum and internal horizontal rods connect it to the rear of the cabinet, holding the HDF enclosure in a rigid grip. A rear port is tuned to a respectable 35Hz.

Despite the acoustically sub-optimal room at the Mirage, the Alya, which was being demmed with the Blue Smoke server, a MSB DAC, and Gryphon power amplifier, sounded very promising.
 

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Αφού πιάσαμε τα "προσιτά" να δούμε και το μικρό της YG, το Carmel.



Colorado manufacturer YG Acoustics, led by the energetic Yoav Geva, achieved notoriety by proclaiming its Anat Reference II Professional the "Best Loudspeaker on Earth. Period. " Stereophile reviewer Wes Phillips didn't disagree with that characterization, though it is fair to note that at $107,000/pair, the Anat Reference II Professional is also one of the more expensive speakers on Earth. Making its debut at CES, YG's two-way Carmel is relatively more affordable, at $18,000/pair, but shares with its sibling an enclosure constructed from slabs of aluminum CNC-machined in-house.

A ring-radiator tweeter, recessed within a conical waveguide, is combined with a modified 7" woofer from Scanspeak in a sealed cabinet. Driven by a dCS Scarlatti 4-box SACD player and Krell Evolution amplification, the Carmel had problems filling the very large Show room with high-level sound, but at a more reasonable playback volume, excelled at clarity and transparency, with an uncolored midrange and relatively generous lows.
 

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Κι άλλο ένα με DSP...
Το νέο μεγάλο της Epos το οποίο μάλιστα έπαιζε με Zetex (ψαγμένος ο Mike Creek).



Since the ES14 from the mid-1980s, speakers from the English Epos company have been renowned for their midrange magic, not for ultimate dynamics. But Mike Creek, Epos's owner, is aiming for both with the Encore 50, which made its debut at CES. This three-way floorstander, priced at $9995/pair, uses two port-loaded 9" woofers with Kevlar/carbon-fiber/pulp-composite cones, in a large cabinet to achieve a high 90dB sensitivity, while the metal-dome tweeter uses an injected-molded roll surround to give high excursion. The midrange is fed by a tapped autotransformer to allow adjustment to a tight tolerance in production.

The sound of the Encore 50 had a generous sweep to its dynamics, and it played loud without strain. But what is even more intriguing is that as manufactured, it can be both used in conventional tri-wired or tr-amped passive mode or, with the passive crossover bypassed with jumpers accessible at the base, in tri-amped active mode.

For the dem when I was there, Mike was driving the Encore 50s with three Creek amplifiers—two of them the excellent Destiny integrated—and realizing the crossover in the digital domain, using an 8-channel DSP module from Diodes-Zetex.
 


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