Blu-Ray με Ελληνικούς υπότιτλους

[abcd]

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Αφού μου λένε όλοι ότι δεν έχεις μπάσο, Γιάννη. Τι ταρακούναγε? :405:

Ωχ...τι θα ακούσει τώρα ο Μήτσος! :405:
Πάντως η φωνή του Γιάννη ταρακουνάει πιο πολύ!

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[MadPax]

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Δεν έχει άδικο ο Γιάννης !!!! Κάποια ματσακουλιά έχουν κάνει πάλι, ειδικά στο νοικιάρικο δισκάκι που πήρα εγώ, η LFE ένδειξη δεν άναβε καθόλου στον ενισχυτή, και το μπάσο είναι σχεδόν ανύπαρκτο !!!!

 

[mamilia]

Δε πα να λετε οτι θέτε... Ίσως γουργουριζε η κοιλιά μου και μπερδευτηκα. Η ουσία είναι μία: Η ταινια μαμαει.....

 

[Zizik]

Μόλις ήρθε το δικό μου, 24 μέρες ταξίδι.

Θα σας πω αύριο τι γίνεται, αν και είμαι σίγουρος ότι ο Μάνος έχει δίκιο! :107:

 

[JOHN MARKOU]

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Καλά ελα απο δω εσυ και θα σου πω εγω ποιός εχει μπάσσο...:116:
Α και να θυμηθώ όταν θάρθεις να εχω και το battle in los angeles.:109:

 

[JOHN MARKOU]

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Σήμερα βλέπω das boot.

 

[Kostas Kefalas]

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Και πως θα δει βρε ανθρωπος στον beng...:405:

 

[abcd]

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Και πως θα δει βρε ανθρωπος στον beng...:405:

:202:

 

[mamilia]

Μόλις ήρθε το δικό μου, 24 μέρες ταξίδι.

Θα σας πω αύριο τι γίνεται, αν και είμαι σίγουρος ότι ο Μάνος έχει δίκιο! :107:

Και δεν θελω να ακουσω το ειδα αργα, κοιμοντουσαν τα παιδια, φωναζουν οι γειτονες... Δυνατα!!!

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[Zizik]

Δεν έχω παιδιά, ακούω μόνο τσίτα, οι γείτονες είναι 150 μέτρα μακριά, το είδα μόλις. Μπάσο δεν είχε! :128:
American το Blu-Ray.












Αυτό δε σημαίνει ότι έχει μπάσο ο John! :114:

 

[mamilia]

Την ηπιαμε... Σ‘ αρεσε τουλαχιστον;

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[Zizik]

Έχω ανάμικτα συναισθήματα, είχα και υψηλές προσδοκίες παρά τις κακές κριτικές.

Ενώ η κύρια ιστορία είναι ενδιαφέρουσα και τα όνειρα του χορού έχουν καλό action, το σύνολο τελικά είναι ασύνδετο και κάπως ανούσιο. Σαν να μπήκαν τυχαία σκηνές από videogames που θα είχαν απλώς ρόλο γεμίσματος, αφού ο χορός δεν θα μπορούσε ποτέ να είναι ο αναμενόμενος.

Δεν πήγαινε το χέρι μου στο 7 στο IMDB, έβαλα 6.

 

[abcd]

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Χμμμμ...σαν να έχεις δίκιο Δημήτρη!

Κάτι μου την χάλαγε και μένα και δεν ήξερα τι ήταν!

 

[JOHN MARKOU]

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Δεν έχω παιδιά, ακούω μόνο τσίτα, οι γείτονες είναι 150 μέτρα μακριά, το είδα μόλις. Μπάσο δεν είχε! :128:
American το Blu-Ray.












Αυτό δε σημαίνει ότι έχει μπάσο ο John! :114:

Που το ξέρεις ? αφου δεν το έχεις ακούσει!

 

[mamilia]

Έχω ανάμικτα συναισθήματα, είχα και υψηλές προσδοκίες παρά τις κακές κριτικές.

Ενώ η κύρια ιστορία είναι ενδιαφέρουσα και τα όνειρα του χορού έχουν καλό action, το σύνολο τελικά είναι ασύνδετο και κάπως ανούσιο. Σαν να μπήκαν τυχαία σκηνές από videogames που θα είχαν απλώς ρόλο γεμίσματος, αφού ο χορός δεν θα μπορούσε ποτέ να είναι ο αναμενόμενος.

Δεν πήγαινε το χέρι μου στο 7 στο IMDB, έβαλα 6.

Όχι 6 :411::418:

Το παρακάτω spoiler εχει spoiler προσοχη αν κάποιος δεν το χει δει..

Spoiler

Μία ενδιαφέρουσα κριτική της ταινίας, καθαρά της υπόθεσης όχι των σκηνών δράσης, σαουνττρακ κτλ... από κάποιον R. Harrison "Rich H" στο amazon.co.uk http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sucker-Punch-Triple-Blu-ray-Digital/dp/B004Q9SYW2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311144519&sr=8-1
I'm making the focus of this review an explanation of what I believe (and others that have shared their thoughts with me) the story and film is about. I think alot of the issues negative reviews have is that it makes no sense, so hopefully what I've laid out here will help go some way to explaining it.

Like other, more constructive, reviews have already stated this film works on a number of levels. Not just the various layers of reality but also with layered meaning and symbolism. I you were expecting *just* a nice easy to watch straightfoward action film then you're going to be, well, sucker punched. Why would anhyone think this though - the trailers' all pretty much warned you to not expect that and the title definitely does! In fact there are multiple ways to interpret the title of the film beyond it just not being a straightforward action film:

Baby Doll was not the protagonist (a fact she twigs on to at the end).

She isn't even necessarily real - she's an `Angel' created in the mind of Sweet Pea.

Baby Doll's back story (her sister and situation) all describe, in part, the story of Sweet Pea's (as alluded to within certain scene's of the film).

Let's also not forget that Sweet Pea was playing the role of Baby Doll in the first scene on the stage. The narrator all the way through the film is Sweet Pea. The fantasy bordello elements didn't actually start until we meet Sweet Pea.

Sweet Pea is the reality of this film, no-one else and if you realise Sweet Pea is the focus of the film's story (and this may only occur on repeat viewings) then you pick up on a lot more *clues* as to what is really taking place in this film.

Right at the beginning of the film a curtain opens and Sweet Pea is telling the story of how she came to be in an asylum. In her retelling, it's a 50's style asylum. The doctor reminds her that she's in control of the story. The asylum of the film isn't actually real (it goes without saying that the bordello and action scenes are also fantasies) which explains the anachronisms of modern music combined with 50's style fashion and technology.

In order to recover, she needs to explore her issues. Sessions in which they're addressed are too traumatic, so she further escapes into outright fantasies (the action scenes). The shifts through the various layers of realities and the projection of other personalities are the way Sweet Pea explores her issues and works through them. Its a very clever way of representing isolation and dissociative behaviour to make them palatable and accessible to the film-goer.

The film's plotline is basically about Sweet Pea's journey along the path of recovery, her "escape". So, the other girls are symbolic of this journey:

Baby Doll is a projection of Sweet Pea's guilt over not being able to save her sister. She has to let that go at the end to fully "escape".

Rocket is repesentative of Sweet Pea's sister. She *is* Sweet Pea's sister but the denouement as she lies in Sweet Pea's arms goes some way to healing her [Sweet Pea].

Blondie is a projection of Sweet Pea's self-doubt. Constantly unsure, she also seeks justification and forgiveness in the arms of various authority figures (ie, the doctor and Blue).

Amber is a projection of Sweet Pea's denial and mental resistance to what has occured and this is symbolised in the fact that she's always the pilot - there to pull Sweet Pea out of the fire if it gets too hot.

Along with the layers of reality, all these characters are used within the film as metaphors for Sweet Pea's self-healing. The other characters (the doctor, Blue, her father) all exist as antagonists to this process throughout these layers of reality.

It really is a clever film, dealing with these kind of issues, but because its wrapped up in a comic book style guise people don't seem to be able to see it for what it is. Which is a pity.

I find it amusing to read alot of the negative reviews - especially the people that state how badly, scripted/acted/directed the film is and then plead with us that it makes no sense. If such people actually had any perceptive qualities they'd understand what the film is about, and as they don't it kinda calls into question their ability to recognise what a good film *is*.

In this film Zack Snyder has attempted to deal with some really big issues that are extraordinarily difficult to represent visually, never mind explain, and he's probably failed as most viewers simply don't get the film. For me though, I found this film demanding (in a good way) and it made me really think about what was taking place and what it was actually about. Only a second viewing really sorted it out in my mind.

I believe, this film is a rough diamond and confirms that Zack Snyder is a visionary film maker who's attention to visual composition is up there with other movie greats. He's took a real risk with the driving force behind this film which is commendable and I hope people give it more of a chance in the future.

7/10.

Όλα αυτά για να βάλει 7 :121:

 

[Zizik]

Re: Απάντηση: Re: Blu-ray με ελληνικους υποτιτλους !!!

Που το ξέρεις ? αφου δεν το έχεις ακούσει!

Μα αφού το λένε όλοι! :137:

 

[Zizik]

Όχι 6 :411::418:

Το παρακάτω spoiler εχει spoiler προσοχη αν κάποιος δεν το χει δει..

Spoiler

Μία ενδιαφέρουσα κριτική της ταινίας, καθαρά της υπόθεσης όχι των σκηνών δράσης, σαουνττρακ κτλ... από κάποιον R. Harrison "Rich H" στο amazon.co.uk http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sucker-Punch-Triple-Blu-ray-Digital/dp/B004Q9SYW2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311144519&sr=8-1
I'm making the focus of this review an explanation of what I believe (and others that have shared their thoughts with me) the story and film is about. I think alot of the issues negative reviews have is that it makes no sense, so hopefully what I've laid out here will help go some way to explaining it.

Like other, more constructive, reviews have already stated this film works on a number of levels. Not just the various layers of reality but also with layered meaning and symbolism. I you were expecting *just* a nice easy to watch straightfoward action film then you're going to be, well, sucker punched. Why would anhyone think this though - the trailers' all pretty much warned you to not expect that and the title definitely does! In fact there are multiple ways to interpret the title of the film beyond it just not being a straightforward action film:

Baby Doll was not the protagonist (a fact she twigs on to at the end).

She isn't even necessarily real - she's an `Angel' created in the mind of Sweet Pea.

Baby Doll's back story (her sister and situation) all describe, in part, the story of Sweet Pea's (as alluded to within certain scene's of the film).

Let's also not forget that Sweet Pea was playing the role of Baby Doll in the first scene on the stage. The narrator all the way through the film is Sweet Pea. The fantasy bordello elements didn't actually start until we meet Sweet Pea.

Sweet Pea is the reality of this film, no-one else and if you realise Sweet Pea is the focus of the film's story (and this may only occur on repeat viewings) then you pick up on a lot more *clues* as to what is really taking place in this film.

Right at the beginning of the film a curtain opens and Sweet Pea is telling the story of how she came to be in an asylum. In her retelling, it's a 50's style asylum. The doctor reminds her that she's in control of the story. The asylum of the film isn't actually real (it goes without saying that the bordello and action scenes are also fantasies) which explains the anachronisms of modern music combined with 50's style fashion and technology.

In order to recover, she needs to explore her issues. Sessions in which they're addressed are too traumatic, so she further escapes into outright fantasies (the action scenes). The shifts through the various layers of realities and the projection of other personalities are the way Sweet Pea explores her issues and works through them. Its a very clever way of representing isolation and dissociative behaviour to make them palatable and accessible to the film-goer.

The film's plotline is basically about Sweet Pea's journey along the path of recovery, her "escape". So, the other girls are symbolic of this journey:

Baby Doll is a projection of Sweet Pea's guilt over not being able to save her sister. She has to let that go at the end to fully "escape".

Rocket is repesentative of Sweet Pea's sister. She *is* Sweet Pea's sister but the denouement as she lies in Sweet Pea's arms goes some way to healing her [Sweet Pea].

Blondie is a projection of Sweet Pea's self-doubt. Constantly unsure, she also seeks justification and forgiveness in the arms of various authority figures (ie, the doctor and Blue).

Amber is a projection of Sweet Pea's denial and mental resistance to what has occured and this is symbolised in the fact that she's always the pilot - there to pull Sweet Pea out of the fire if it gets too hot.

Along with the layers of reality, all these characters are used within the film as metaphors for Sweet Pea's self-healing. The other characters (the doctor, Blue, her father) all exist as antagonists to this process throughout these layers of reality.

It really is a clever film, dealing with these kind of issues, but because its wrapped up in a comic book style guise people don't seem to be able to see it for what it is. Which is a pity.

I find it amusing to read alot of the negative reviews - especially the people that state how badly, scripted/acted/directed the film is and then plead with us that it makes no sense. If such people actually had any perceptive qualities they'd understand what the film is about, and as they don't it kinda calls into question their ability to recognise what a good film *is*.

In this film Zack Snyder has attempted to deal with some really big issues that are extraordinarily difficult to represent visually, never mind explain, and he's probably failed as most viewers simply don't get the film. For me though, I found this film demanding (in a good way) and it made me really think about what was taking place and what it was actually about. Only a second viewing really sorted it out in my mind.

I believe, this film is a rough diamond and confirms that Zack Snyder is a visionary film maker who's attention to visual composition is up there with other movie greats. He's took a real risk with the driving force behind this film which is commendable and I hope people give it more of a chance in the future.

7/10.

Όλα αυτά για να βάλει 7 :121:

Ψάχνει να βρει περισσότερα layers απ' όσα υπάρχουν νομίζω.

Οφείλω εδώ να αναφέρω ότι τις υπόλοιπες ταινίες του Zack Snyder τις αγαπώ πολύ, και τις βλέπω συνέχεια.

Αλλά μέσα στην επόμενη εβδομάδα, θα το ξαναδώ, και τα λέμε πάλι Μάνο μου! :107:



EDIT: Επειδή το σκέφτομαι συνέχεια, και το δουλεύω ακόμη στο μυαλό (κουκούτσι) μου, ακόμη και αν υπάρχουν τα layers, είναι ίσως τεχνητά ασαφή γιά να δείξουμε βάθος...

 

[rose.athens]

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Θα συμφωνήσω με τον Zizik. Μόνο για ένα 6αράκι η ταινία......

Πολλά επίπεδα, χωρίς ουσιαστικό νόημα.

 

[mamilia]

Σκληρά αγόρια....:402:

 

[JOHN MARKOU]

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Tough guys.