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Genelec, the leader in active monitoring technology for four decades, is proud to introduce Ultimate Point Source monitoring with The Ones. The award-winning 8351 is joined by the 8331 and 8341, the world’s smallest three-way coaxial monitors, to create a complete compact coaxial range that redefines near-field monitoring. Unveiled today to a VIP audience at London’s Metropolis Studios, the 8331 and 8341 immediately defy expectations; housed in enclosures no larger than a traditional two-way 8030 or 8040, they wipe away the previous constraints of coaxial point source set-ups.

Long considered the standard for critical listening, point source overcomes the off-axis colouration associated with traditional loudspeaker designs, giving the user more freedom of movement rather than confining them to a narrow sweet spot. But point source has also presented its own set of limitations when combined with superior coaxial designs, including limited frequency range, low SPL and uneven dispersion. Using Genelec’s acclaimed Minimum Diffraction Coaxial (MDC™) driver, The Ones eliminate these issues to create the Ultimate Point Source.

The Ones deliver precise imaging both on- and off-axis, coupled with absolutely neutral reproduction, meaning users can make mix decisions with confidence while also listening for longer – the dramatic reduction in unnatural imaging means listener fatigue is a fraction of that experienced with other systems. In addition, Genelec’s famous Directivity Control Waveguide (DCW™), is combined with the unmatched precision of The Ones’ concealed dual woofer design, resulting in less coloured reflections.



Like the 8351, both the 8331 and 8341 can be orientated horizontally or vertically using an adjustable IsoPod base for isolation, with absolutely no compromise in performance, offering maximum flexibility to fit even the tightest of working environments. But while the 8331 and 8341 both echo the 8351 in form and function, the new models have been entirely reengineered to meet the challenges of their ultra-compact dimensions (just 299mm x 189mm x 212mm for the 8331, and 350mm x 237mm x 243mm for the 8341).

Innovations include a motor assembly that sees both the midrange and the tweeter share the same compact magnet system, reducing size and weight with no reduction in response. The unique midrange coaxial driver cone is now comprised of concentric sections, optimising midrange linearity – as does the DCW which covers the entire front face of the enclosure. Despite the size of the 8331 and 8341, each unit incorporates three stages of dedicated Class D amplification, developed in-house by Genelec and including eco-friendly Intelligent Signal Sensing (ISS) energy saving technology.

Small but mighty, The Ones are also powerful. The short-term maximum output capacities for each of the models is 104 dB SPL for the 8331 (at 1m), and 110 dB SPL for the 8341 (at 1m), with accuracy better than ±1.5 dB, and respective frequency responses starting at 45 Hz and 38 Hz (-6 dB) and extending beyond 40 kHz both for the analogue and digital inputs.

The coaxial design allows for ultra-near-field listening, creating a dramatic improvement in the direct sound-to-reverberant sound ratio and further reducing the room’s influence while monitoring. The listening distance may be as short as 40 cm, with no loss of precision. At a listening distance of just 50 cm, the maximum SPL capability (headroom) is raised by more than 5 dB.

Finally, with The Ones, Ultimate Point Source meets ultimate flexibility with Smart Active Monitoring (SAM™), the ground-breaking Genelec technology based on Genelec Loudspeaker Manager (GLM™) 2.0 software for PC and Mac, incorporating AutoCal™.

With SAM, The Ones take their place in a larger family of smart monitors from across the Genelec range, all of which can be used to create smart networks of up to 40 monitors and subwoofers per network, covering instantly recallable configurations from traditional stereo to immersive audio. GLM makes it simple to create optimal monitoring set-ups even in challenging environments, automatically compensating for detrimental room influences by calibrating levels, distance delays, phase and room equalisation to create a consistent, optimised listening environment.

“The number of big ideas contained within these small monitors is truly remarkable, but no list of features can ever match up to the experience of simply listening to them,” commented Genelec Managing Director, Siamäk Naghian. “For professionals worldwide, the 8351 has already become the trusted standard for its neutrality, and its smooth frequency response both on- and off-axis. Now that same precision and three-way performance is available to everyone. With the 8331 and 8341, the size of your studio is no longer a barrier to the size of your ambition.”

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Εχθές η Genelec παρουσίασε 3 νέα Monitors στην γκάμα The Ones. Αναβάθμισε ένα, πρόσθεσε ένα μεγαλύτερο και το active subwoofer τους.

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Meet the new members of
The Ones family!


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Today we are proud to unveil our new 8351B and 8361A coaxial smart active monitors - alongside the complementary W371A Adaptive Woofer System - thereby bringing Genelec point source performance to a much wider range of room sizes, listening distances and SPL requirements.

These three new arrivals mean that The Ones family now delivers uniquely uncoloured and neutral reference monitoring performance - from ultra-nearfield through to mastering-calibre and main monitor applications.

Point Source Precision meets Adaptive Woofer Technology in Genelec’s Newly Expanded ‘The Ones’ Family

Genelec, the world leader in professional audio monitoring, has expanded The Ones series of Ultimate Point Source Monitors to bring uncompromised precision listening to a much wider range of room sizes, listening distances and SPL requirements.


The announcement of the new 8351B and 8361A coaxial three-way monitors alongside the complementary W371A Adaptive Woofer System means that The Ones family now delivers uniquely uncoloured and neutral reference monitoring performance - from ultra-nearfield through to mastering-caliber and main monitor applications.

The Ones range was launched in 2014 with the introduction of the 8351A, whose extraordinary imaging, extended frequency response, controlled directivity and fatigue-free listening enabled professionals to work faster and make more informed, consistent decisions when recording and mixing. In 2017 the 8351A was joined by the 8331A and 8341A models, creating a trio of compact nearfield monitors that stunned users worldwide with their outstanding performance, garnering multiple industry awards along the way. By colouring neither direct sound nor reflections, The Ones rapidly gained a well-earned reputation for making a good room sound incredible.

Today, the new 8361A three-way coaxial monitor refines the point source concept even further, offering the most advanced acoustic performance of any studio monitor currently available - with extremely high dynamic range, unrivalled directivity and imaging and a short term SPL of 118 dB with peak levels even higher. Now the largest coaxial monitor in The Ones family, the 8361A will deliver an exquisite monitoring experience at any listening distance up to 5 metres, making it perfect for small to medium sized rooms.

The 8361A features two newly-designed Acoustically Concealed Woofers - generating high SPL output with extremely low distortion - and brand new MDC coaxial midrange and tweeter drivers which provide smooth directivity, low distortion, high SPL and extended frequency response up to 40 kHz. Like all models in The Ones range, the 8361A’s unique Minimum Diffraction Enclosure eliminates colouration and its entire front baffle acts as a Directivity Control Waveguide - producing a fantastically wide, uncoloured sweet spot. Efficient proprietary Class D amplification is complemented by advanced DSP processing, including delay equalisation and twenty precision EQs for room compensation.

The newly upgraded 8351B shares much of the technology of its other Ones siblings and benefits from the many recent advances in electronic, mechanical and acoustical design that Genelec has continued to pioneer. Drawing inspiration from the electronic design of the 8341A and the driver technology of the 8361A, the 8351B revision has managed to improve on the exemplary performance of its predecessor by offering increased SPL, additional room compensation EQs, equalised delay and enhanced HF response.

The W371A Adaptive Woofer System is a truly unique concept, designed specifically to seamlessly complement 8341, 8351 and 8361 monitors, and in conjunction with these models creates a series of full-range monitoring solutions with unrivalled neutrality and supreme levels of control over directivity and the effects of room acoustics. For the first time ever, studios can now experience all the benefits of a main monitor, but with the freedom to locate this free-standing system in optimal positions within the control room; even providing the option to switch between nearfield and main monitors without image-shifting.


Standing at 1100 mm (43 1/4 inches) high and featuring dual high performance woofers, one forward-facing and one rear-facing, the W371A introduces a palette of novel ways to custom-tailor system performance carefully to the room over the critical lowest four octaves. As a result, the W371A offers vastly superior performance compared to standard free-standing loudspeakers or supporting subwoofers, since it offers a flatter and smoother in-room frequency response with more coherent low frequency imaging - yet achieves this without sacrificing envelopment.

Augmenting the dual woofers of The Ones coaxial models with a complementary W371A yields four woofers in total per channel, and these are combined using advanced acoustic measurement to reduce destructive cancellation and standing wave artefacts - through a host of tools including crossover frequencies, polar response and directivity. As a result, the W371A goes further than any other monitoring system in removing the detrimental influences of the listening room on low frequency reproduction – universally recognised as a key issue in all modern studios.

As part of Genelec’s Smart Active Monitoring family, all models in The Ones range integrate tightly with Genelec’s GLM software application, which can configure, calibrate and control entire Genelec smart monitoring systems. Based on experience from thousands of studios around the world, GLM is able to minimise the listening room’s influence on the sound, enabling the user to produce mixes that translate perfectly to other systems, whether the format is mono, stereo or high channel count immersive.


Commenting on the launch, Genelec Managing Director Siamäk Naghian said:

“No other family of studio monitors can offer this level of coherency, control, neutrality and sheer ability to adapt to any acoustic environment. From the ultra-nearfield precision of the 8331A to a full-range system comprising the 8361A and W371A, our point source technology is now fully scalable, broadening its appeal still further and maintaining The Ones’ position as the industry’s benchmark for truthful reference monitoring.”
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8351B SAM™ Studio Monitor

A revolution in three-way monitor design, the 8351B boasts a unique look, compact size and a performance that has to be heard to be believed.

The newly upgraded 8351B manages to improve on the exemplary performance of its iconic ‘A’ version predecessor by offering increased SPL, additional room compensation EQs, equalised delay and enhanced HF response. Offering the same extraordinary imaging and uncoloured precision of its smaller 8331 and 8341 siblings, the 8351B has the additional benefit of a higher maximum SPL for longer listening distances - plus even greater low frequency extension.
The Ones family of point source monitors promotes faster and more consistent decision making, but also allows you to work reliably on longer sessions - because unnatural imaging, a main contributor to listener fatigue, is minimised. Dispersion is controlled over an unusually wide frequency range thanks to the large integrated waveguide (DCW™) with dual hidden woofers; and orientation may be either horizontal or vertical. Their looks are striking too, whichever way you turn them.
As part of the Genelec smart active monitoring range, the 8351B can be configured, calibrated and controlled using our powerful GLM software, enabling it to adapt to your acoustic space and compensate for any detrimental room influences. So whether you are working in stereo, surround or immersive formats, you can be confident of producing mixes that will translate beautifully to other rooms and systems.
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Technical specifications
113 dB
32 Hz – 43 kHz (-6dB)
± 1.5 dB (38 Hz - 20 kHz)
2x Oval Woofers 8 5/8 x 4 inch + Coaxial Midrange/Tweeter MDC™ 5 / 1 in + DCW™
Woofer 250 W + Midrange 150 W + Tweeter 150 W
14,3 kg / 31 lb
1 x XLR analog input, 1 x input / 1 x output XLR digital AES/EBU, 2 x RJ45 control network.
 
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8361 SAM™ Studio Monitor

The new flagship of The Ones range, the 8361 offers the most advanced acoustic performance of any studio monitor on the planet

The largest of our coaxial point source monitors, the 8361 offers extremely high dynamic range, unrivalled directivity and imaging and a short term SPL of 118 dB, enabling it to deliver an exquisite monitoring experience at any listening distance up to 5 metres – and therefore making it perfect for small to medium sized rooms.

The 8361 features two newly-designed Acoustically Concealed Woofers - generating high SPL output with extremely low distortion - and brand new MDC coaxial midrange and tweeter drivers which provide smooth directivity, low distortion, high SPL and extended frequency response up to 40 kHz. The 8361’s unique Minimum Diffraction Enclosure eliminates colouration and its entire front baffle acts as a Directivity Control Waveguide - producing a fantastically wide, uncoloured sweet spot.

Like all models in The Ones series, the 8361 promotes faster and more consistent decision making, and also allows you to work reliably on longer sessions - because unnatural imaging, a main contributor to listener fatigue, is minimised. And by using it in conjunction with our powerful GLM calibration software, the 8361 will adapt to your acoustic space - compensating for any detrimental room influences and helping you produce mixes that translate perfectly, from stereo through to highly complex immersive formats

Technical specifications
118 dB
30 Hz – 43 kHz (-6dB)
± 1.5 dB (36 Hz - 20 kHz)
2x Oval Woofers 10 3/8 x 5 3/8 inch + Coaxial Midrange/Tweeter MDC™ 5 / 1 in+ DCW™
Woofer 500 W + Midrange 150 W + Tweeter 150 W
H 593 x W 357 x D 347 mm, H 23 3/8 x W 14 x D 13 5/8 in
31,9 kg / 70 lb
1 x XLR analog input, 1 x input / 1 x output XLR digital AES/EBU, 2 x RJ45 control network

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W371 SAM™ Woofer System





An absolute revelation in low frequency performance. With the W371, you can finally wave goodbye to the detrimental influences of your room on LF reproduction.

The W371 is designed to seamlessly complement the 8341, 8351 and 8361 monitors from The Ones series, and in conjunction with these models creates a series of full-range monitoring solutions with unrivalled neutrality and supreme levels of control over directivity and the effects of room acoustics.

For the first time ever, your studio can now experience all the benefits of a main monitor, but with the freedom to locate this free-standing system in optimal positions within your control room; even providing the option to switch between nearfield and main monitors without image-shifting.

Featuring dual high performance woofers, one forward-facing and one rear-facing, the W371 introduces a palette of novel ways to custom-tailor system performance carefully to the room over the critical lowest four octaves, offering flatter, smoother in-room frequency response with more coherent LF imaging.

Three different operating modes allow you choose between a flat and neutral LF response avoiding ‘acoustic notching’, continued directivity of the main monitor down to the lowest LF frequencies, or reduction of detrimental reflections by the walls, ceiling or floor of your room. The W371 then uses our powerful GLM software to select and optimise the signal processing for the best LF radiation mode, taking into account both the monitor location and listening position.

Technical specifications
120dB
23 Hz - 500 Hz (-6 dB)
± 3 dB (25 Hz - 450 Hz)
1 x 14 inch 1 x 12 inch
2 x 400W
1108 x 400 x 400 mm, 43 1/2 x 15 6/8 x 15 6/8 in
61kg, 135 lb
1 x Input/ 1 x output XLR analog 1 x input/1 x output XLR digitial AES/EBU. 2 x RJ45 control network

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To 8361 δεξιά σε σχέση με το προηγούμενο μεγαλύτερο μοντέλο. Κτήνος. θα ρίξει πολύ ξύλο.

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Εδώ το live. Δυστυχώς είναι Facebook live μόνο.

 
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the W371A goes further than any other monitoring system in removing the detrimental influences of the listening room on low frequency reproduction – universally recognised as a key issue in all modern studios.
the 8361 offers the most advanced acoustic performance of any studio monitor on the planet
Αυτά είναι...
Το'σκισε και ψόφησε.
Βιβα τζενελεκ!
 

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Αυτά είναι...
Το'σκισε και ψόφησε.
Βιβα τζενελεκ!
Τα νέα ηχεία του υποφαινομένου...προσεχώς. Και δεν δίνω δεκάρα πόσο φθηνά ηλεκτρονικά εξαρτήματα μπορεί να περιέχονταν.:)
Βλέπεις που καμιά φορά βολεύει να μένεις δικαναλικός....Μπορείς κάλλιστα ν'αλλάξεις setup με υποφερτό κόστος.;)
 



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Μονοκαναλικός θα έχεις ακόμα χαμηλότερο κόστος
Ό,τι σ'ευχαριστεί περισσότερο.Ούτως ή άλλως,άλλος θα επωμιστεί το...κόστος.:p
Και μην ξεχνάς ότι προτού περάσεις σε πολυκαναλικό setup βρίσκεις πρώτα το ηχείο που θα σε εξυπηρετούσε περισσότερο σε...δικαναλικό τοιούτον.Από αυτό ξεκινάμε και όχι από τον...βαρβάτο επεξεργαστή. ;)
 


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προτού περάσεις σε πολυκαναλικό setup βρίσκεις πρώτα το ηχείο που θα σε εξυπηρετούσε περισσότερο σε...δικαναλικό τοιούτον
Πολύ σωστά. ;)

Και να βολεύει το μέγεθος (αρκούντως μικρό) για πολυκαναλικό σεταπ με όμοιους δορυφόρους. ;)

Το ίδιο σκεπτικό επιλογής, θα έπρεπε να εφαρμοστεί (συμβατά χαιεντικου επιπέδου) και στον πολυκάναλο προ-επεξεργαστή ενώ ακόμα βρίσκεσαι σε δικάναλο στήσιμο. Δηλαδή, να επιλεγεί ο av pro στην δικάναλη μορφή του συστήματος, με ακροάσεις στο γνωστό επίπεδο ακρόασης δικαναλου περιεχομένου, ώστε να επιβεβαιωθεί ο κάτοχος για την ηχητική αρτιότητα του νέου πολυκάναλου αποκτηματος πάνω στα γνώριμά του δικάναλα ακούσματα, αντικαθιστώντας επάξια (ακόμα και σε επίπεδο χροιών και υγρασίας μεσαίων) κάποιον γνωστό και άξιο δικάναλο προενισχυτή. ;)

Έτσι στήνεται μια γερή βάση, ώστε σιγά σιγά και σε βάθος χρόνου ανάλογο των οικονομικών δυνατοτήτων, να προστεθούν οι δορυφόροι που θα ολοκληρώσουν ένα ιμερσιβ σεταπ. :)

Επειδή δε, ο αριθμός των δορυφόρων μπορεί να είναι αρκετά μεγάλος, καλό είναι να συνυπολογιστεί εξ'αρχής να είναι ανέτως εντός οικονομικών δυνατοτήτων το κόστος εκάστου δορυφόρου υπό το πνεύμα μελλοντικής αγοράς πολλών όμοιων, ώστε το συνολικό κόστος του πρότζεκτ να μην ξεπεράσει κάποιο λογικό επίπεδο σε σχέση με την οικονομική άνεση του ιδιοκτήτη. ;)
 
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το συνολικό κόστος του πρότζεκτ να μην ξεπεράσει κάποιο λογικό επίπεδο σε σχέση με την οικονομική άνεση του ιδιοκτήτη
Αυτό είναι το πρόβλημά μου!

Αν κάποιος διαβάσει το παραπάνω pdf, post #9, θα δει ότι είναι απαιραίτητο και το software-hardware ισοστάθμισης, για τέλειο αποτέλεσμα.
 

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Ένα stereo W371A +8361A θα ήταν όνειρο, απλά όνειρο.
Είμαι σίγουρος ότι ένα immersive θα ήταν καλύτερο αλλά για άλλα βαλάντια...
Ακριβώς.

Οπότε, για να μη βρεθείς προ αδιεξόδου αν κάποτε τολμήσεις το immersive, καλό είναι να επιλεχθούν εξ'αρχής 2 ηχεία για δικάναλο σεταπ σε τιμή τέτοια που δε θα αποτελέσει φραγμό στον ιδιοκτήτη σε περίπτωση που αποφασίσει να προβεί στην επιπρόσθετη αγορά πολλαπλών όμοιων σε δεύτερο χρόνο, έστω και σταδιακά.
 

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Ένα stereo W371A +8361A θα ήταν όνειρο, απλά όνειρο.
Είμαι σίγουρος ότι ένα immersive θα ήταν καλύτερο αλλά για άλλα βαλάντια...
Μόνο όνειρο;;
Τα ηχεία της Genelec θεωρώ ότι πολύ άνετα κάθονται σε ένα σαλόνι. Τα Sub όμως ΔΕΝ. Θέλει dedicated.
Μόνο τα μικρά που έχει για σπίτι είναι όμορφα αλλά μικρά. Προφανώς για τους ανάλογους χώρους. Αναρωτιέμαι 2 ή 4 Genelec F Two τη θα έκαναν σε 20 - 30 τετραγωνικά.
 

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Μόνο όνειρο;;
Τα ηχεία της Genelec θεωρώ ότι πολύ άνετα κάθονται σε ένα σαλόνι. Τα Sub όμως ΔΕΝ. Θέλει dedicated.
Μόνο τα μικρά που έχει για σπίτι είναι όμορφα αλλά μικρά. Προφανώς για τους ανάλογους χώρους. Αναρωτιέμαι 2 ή 4 Genelec F Two τη θα έκαναν σε 20 - 30 τετραγωνικά.
Εγώ όπως το βλέπω στημένο το θεωρώ πανέμορφο, περίεργης αλλά ωραία περίεργης αισθητικής! Αν είχα δλδ κανένα 10-12άρι για σκότωμα (για στέρεο κάπου εκεί ίσως και παραπάνω θα προσγειωθούν) δε νομίζω να πήγαινα αλλού!


Ακριβώς.

Οπότε, για να μη βρεθείς προ αδιεξόδου αν κάποτε τολμήσεις το immersive, καλό είναι να επιλεχθούν εξ'αρχής 2 ηχεία για δικάναλο σεταπ σε τιμή τέτοια που δε θα αποτελέσει φραγμό στον ιδιοκτήτη σε περίπτωση που αποφασίσει να προβεί στην επιπρόσθετη αγορά πολλαπλών όμοιων σε δεύτερο χρόνο, έστω και σταδιακά.
Προφανώς και έχεις απόλυτο δίκιο, δεν αγοράζωσυνήθως παρορμητικά, σκέφτομαι και το λίγο πιο παρακάτω. Έτσι όπως τα βλέπω όμως στημένα με αυτή την υπέροχη αισθητική (sub+μονιτορ) κάτι με πιάνει λολ
 

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Τα εν λόγω οβάλ ομοαξονικά της μεγάλης τζενελεκ, είναι προφανώς ιδανικού σχήματος και όγκου ηχεία για πολυκάναλο σεταπ, και οι επιδόσεις τους είναι πέραν αμφισβήτησης.

Το μόνο θέμα που απασχολεί, είναι η τιμή τους.

Καθείς, αναλόγως των οικονομικών δυνατοτήτων του, μπορεί να επιλέξει οποιοδήποτε μοντέλο από αυτή τη γκάμα, και να είναι βέβαιος ότι τα λεφτά του θα πιάσουν τόπο.

Σύνεση χρειάζεται στην επιλογή, ώστε να μην φτάσει το μπάτζετ δυσθεώρητα (για την τσέπη του εκάστοτε ιδιοκτήτη) επίπεδα, σε περίπτωση μελλοντικής υλοποίησης ιμερσιβ σεταπ.
 


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Τα νέα ηχεία του υποφαινομένου...προσεχώς. Και δεν δίνω δεκάρα πόσο φθηνά ηλεκτρονικά εξαρτήματα μπορεί να περιέχονταν.:)
Βλέπεις που καμιά φορά βολεύει να μένεις δικαναλικός....Μπορείς κάλλιστα ν'αλλάξεις setup με υποφερτό κόστος.;)
Εννοείς τα 8361 ;
Εγώ μετά από μια τυχαία ακρόαση ζεύγους 8351 έπαθα ένα σοκ και έχω αρχίσει να τα ζαχαρώνω. Και είναι και πολύ όμορφα και designάτα. Απλά δεν μπορώ να περιγράψω το πως έπαιζαν...
 

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Ωραία ηχεία και πολύ ωραίο φαίνεται και το σαμπάκι (που σωστά δεν είναι σαμπάκι με την έννοια του home theater). Πέρα από τις διαφημιστικές π@π@ριές, έχουμε στοιχεία για το πως ακριβώς κάνει αυτά που υπόσχεται; Αν υποψιαστώ ότι απλώς έχει EQ...

¨Standing at 1100 mm (43.25 inches) high and featuring dual high-performance woofers (one forward-facing and one rear-facing), the W371A introduces a palette of novel ways to custom-tailor system performance carefully to the room over the critical lowest four octaves. As a result, the W371A offers vastly superior performance compared to standard free-standing loudspeakers or supporting subwoofers, since it offers a flatter and smoother in-room frequency response with more coherent low frequency imaging – yet achieves this without sacrificing envelopment. ¨
 


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