Τι πρεπει να αλλαξει για να γινει το AVSite περισσοτερο καλαισθητο?

[Cinemusic - Ανδρεας]

Καλα εσυ εισαι και σκοτεινος τυπος.

Παντως εχεις δικιο.

 

[stoidis]

Η αλήθεια είναι ότι το vbulletin είναι το καλύτερο forum software που υπάρχει κατά την άποψή μου.

Αν τελικά αποφασιστεί να μεταφερθούμε εκεί, σίγουρα η μεταφορά μπορεί να γίνει. Μπορεί να χαθούν μερικά attachments κτλ... αλλά μικρό το κακό.

To vbulletin μπορεί να φανεί καλύτερο σε 5 και χειρότερο σε 10 χρήστες. Γι' αυτό πριν να πάμε εκεί, καλό θα είναι να είμαστε σίγουροι. Εγώ πάντως ψηφίζω ναι.

Τέλος, στην πλατφόρμα που θα πάμε, καλό θα είναι να ξέρουμε τί θέλουμε από αυτήν τόσο από πλευράς λειτουργικότητας όσο και από πλευράς εμφάνισης. Υπάρχουν πράγματα που γίνονται και πράγματα που δεν γίνονται.

Ο hoster

 

[Don Mario Lazarou]

Στην αρχή διάβασα ο Hostel και ανησύχησα λίγο...
Και σε άλλα boards που μπαίνω και έχουν vBulletin δεν μου φαίνεται κακό...
Το θέμα είναι να έχει τις ευκολίες που έχουμε συνηθίσει εδώ και να είναι το ίδιο λειτουργικό...

@Ανδρέας...Αφού με ξέρεις...Dark side...

 

[Andrew]

vbulletin και ξερο ψωμι . (τα Vallhala δωρο στην γιορτη μου Τσαρο)
Κυριε hoster επειδη ισως καποιοι ξερουν τι εστι vbulletin και καποιοι ισως οχι
δεν μας δινετε μια εικονα με τα υπερ και τα κατα της πλατφορμας αυτης ;;;

 

[stoidis]

Κυριε hoster επειδη ισως καποιοι ξερουν τι εστι vbulletin και καποιοι ισως οχι
δεν μας δινετε μια εικονα με τα υπερ και τα κατα της πλατφορμας αυτης ;;;

Το μοναδικό μειονέκτημα του vbulletin συγκριτικά με το SMF είναι ότι κοστίζει 160$.

Από εκεί και πέρα, επειδή το θέμα είναι περισσότερο αισθητικό και κάπως λειτουργικό, μπορείτε να περιηγηθείτε στο www.simplemachines.org και στο www.vbulletin.com και να μας πείτε εντυπώσεις.

 

[Gebreselassie]

Κάπως λειτουργικό? Πλάκα κάνεις βρε?...

 

[Andrew]

vBulletin Features

General Features

* Scalable solution - database server and web servers can reside on separate machines.
* MySQL back-end database
* vBulletin can be run on any machine that can support PHP and MySQL (Solaris, BSD, Linux, Windows, Mac)
* Written in PHP which makes for a fast and efficient product
* Admin Control Panel
* Moderator Control Panel
* User Control Panel
* Compliant with the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA) of 1998. See this page for more information: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/coppa.htm

General Forum Features

Threads

* Thread display options - sort by, sort order, from date
* Thread and forum subscription (notification by email optional)
* Thread preview on mouse-over (optional, via Admin CP)
* Active Users viewing thread shown
* New Post Indicator
* Printer Friendly versions on threads
* Admin tools for Threads - edit/delete/move/lock/Make sticky/ etc
* Email page to a friend option
* Similar Threads displayed on all thread views

Posts

* Linear, Threaded, Hybrid display views available
* Supports BB Code in posts
* Supports HTML in post
* Smilies
* Avatars
* Optional WYSIWYG or standard editors for posts and Private Messages
* Attachment images (.gif,.jpg, etc) are no longer in the database (optional, via Admin CP)
* Quick reply box (with optional "forced" click on post to quote)
* Preview post option
* Post rating
* User reputation
* Polls
* Post Reporting - report posts to moderators
* User post count
* Admin tools for Posts - edit/delete/move/ etc
* Preview safe attachments

Members

* Member List
* Member Search
* User Style picker
* Private Messaging
* Buddy list
* Member Birthdays shown on Forum home

Calendar Features

* Supports multiple private and public calendars
* Viewable public and private events (adminCP option)
* Weekly, monthly and yearly views
* Jump to Today option
* Add single, ranged or recurring events
* Add all day events
* Option to show calendar event on forum home page (adminCP option)
* Show events to specific usergroups (adminCP option)
* Calendar Moderation
* Private events reminder
* Ability to add custom fields

General

* Who's online
* Search

User Control Panel Features

Editable user profile

This information can be viewed by other members from the member list. Custom user title, URL home page, date of birth, instant messaging medium, location, occupation, biography, interests, vB version, plus any other custom user fields that may be defined by the administrator

Profile pictures

Allows members to upload pictures that can be viewed in the users' profile.

Private Messaging

* Pop-up notification when new PM recieved
* Private Message Tracking
* Private Message filing in custom folders

User Options

These include Daylight Savings options, forum style chooser, selection of notification types for PM, emails etc, thread display options, WYSIWYG editor options, language chooser, vCard downloads to allow the user profile to be placed into an address book

Attachment Management

* View attachment statistics - shows limit and used space
* View the attachments you have posted (link or thumbnail views available)
* Remove attachments

Avatar Options

* Admin Defined Avatars
* Custom Avatars - upload from your own computer or specify a URL

General

* View and manage subscribed threads and forums
* Calendar event reminders for subscribed events
* Pop-up auto-refreshing buddylist with ICQ-style alerts when new buddies come online
* Signature Editor
* Email and password changes require current password
* Joinable Public User Groups

Admin Control Panel Features

Styling & Templates

* Templated system
* Conditionals supported in the templates
* Ability to create multiple styles which can be applied to different forums and users
* Ability to upload / download styles and languages

Language & Phrase Management

* Language manager - allows you to easily translate your forums in any language
* Multiple languages supported
* Phrase manager

Users & Usergroups

* User registration options
* User banning (by name & IP)
* Global ignore user aka 'Tachy goes to Coventry' - when enabled all posts by the specified user will be ignored/unseen by other members. Automatically added to the all users ignore lists
* Unlimited Moderators and SuperModerators
* Permission system, based on user, usergroup or forums

Board Maintenance

* Task Scheduler
* Control Panel, Moderator & Task logs
* Board statistics
* Maintentance - Database backups, table repair
* Post Prunning

Moderation

* Moderation queues for user registration and posting
* Calendar moderation

Import Facility

* Import facility - import posts and members seamlessly upgrade from other bulletin board systems, including Infopop's Ultimate Bulletin Board, UBBThreads, OpenTopic, ezboard, and Ikonboard

Attachments

* Multiple attachments and types (types defined by admin in CP)
* Attachment thumbnails (requires PHP to have GD enabled)
* Storage type options for attachements (database or file system)
* Attachment moderation

General

* Multiple calendars supported
* Paid Subscriptions (PayPal, WorldPay, NOCHEX and Authorize.net)
* Private forums
* COPPA compliant
* Server Settings and Optimisation options configurable via the adminCP
* Editable FAQ for your own boards
* Context sensitive help throughout the adminCP

 

[Andrew]

SMF features

General

* Uses PHP and MySQL.
* Comprehensive template system.
* Advanced permission and user management.
* Supports multiple languages at once.
* Open and well-documented source code.
* Tracking of new and old unread topics, not just from your last visit.
* Designed for optimal performance and scalability.
* Multi-media output. (XHTML, XML, RSS, WAP)
* Multi-language support from a large community.
* Package manager that automatically installs or uninstalls mods (also known as hacks.)
* Search:
o Search the entire forum, a category/board or within a topic.
o Search within your personal messages.

Security

* All actions seamlessly require a session based authorization code.
* Administrative actions require the user's password (and do not rely solely on cookies.)
* Major actions are time and IP locked, preventing 'hammering'.
* The number of login attempts from a certain IP can be limited and time locked.

Forum Settings

* Ability to display page creation time and query count per page.
* Put a board into maintenance mode, allowing only admins to login.
* Word censoring, either full word or partial.
* Ability to break up long words.

Boards and Categories

* Group boards into collapsible categories.
* Set categories as non-collapsible.
* Reorder boards within categories, or reorder categories.
* Create child boards under other boards. (sub boards)
* Assign moderators to boards.
* Allow certain membergroups to access a board, including guests only.
* Configure permissions for each membergroup on the board level.
* Ability to indicate new posts to child boards but nothing new in parent.

Member Registration

* Require registration before forum entrance.
* Require a user to agree to terms before they register.
* Disable member registration completely (allowing only moderators to register people).
* Require email authentication by sending an authentication link.
* Require a moderator to approve registration.
* Register new members from the admin center.

Member Navigation and Authentication

* Several security checks during navigation.
* Password reminder option, by email with confirmation. (doesn't automatically reset your password.)
* Both cookie and session based authentication (works without cookies.)
* Cookies can be set local to a path, global to all subdomains, or normally.
* Adjustable expiration time for authentication cookies.

Member Tracking and Tracing

* Sortable and searchable public memberlist (accessible by a permission.)
* Powerful sortable and searchable admin memberlist.
* Show all (error) messages and IPs made by a member. (track user)
* Show all (error) messages from an IP address or range. (track IP)
* See who's doing what (accessible by permission.)

Statistics

* Several board statistics (accessible by permission.)
* Tracking of member's online time in seconds.
* Tracking of topics, messages, new members, and hits per day.
* Individual member statistics accessible from their profile.

News and Announcements

* Ability to create announcement boards (members receive a notification of topics automatically.)
* Member option to disable receiving announcements.
* Email or private message your members by membergroup.
* Show a news ticker or news fader.

Communication

* Ability to choose sendmail or SMTP (with or without authentication.)
* Ability to send a topic to a friend.
* Ability to view a "printer friendly" version of topics.

Membergroups

* Create membergroups to group members on permissions, access rights, and/or appearance.
* Assign several membergroups to a single member, with one membergroup as the primary group.
* Define membergroups that are auto-assigned based on the amount of posts a user has.
* Determine the maximum number of personal messages a membergroup is allowed to have by group.
* Assign graphical symbol(s) to a membergroup - by primary group.
* Determine which membergroups are allowed to access a board.

Banning

* Ban members based on their username, email address, IP address or hostname.
* Support of wildcards for email address, IP address, and hostname.
* Include a ban reason (viewable for the banned user).
* Include a ban note (only viewable by the admins).
* Chose between full ban, 'no post' ban, or registration ban.
* Include an expiration time for bans.

External integration

* Integrate parts of forum software into existing website using SSI or PHP.
o Recent topics or posts.
o Recent news posts in a board.
o Recent polls.
o Several forum statistics.
o List of users online.
o The menu bar.
o News.
o Search.
o Login/logout.
o Today's events/birthdays/holidays.
* Export forum data using XML/RSS
o Latest members.
o News.
o Recent posts.

Wireless access

* Support for WAP, WAP2 and I-mode protocols.
* Browse through boards/topics/messages with reduced page size.
* Ability to login and logout (not with WAP 1.)
* Ability to see new topics/boards with new replies.
* Ability to jump to first unread reply.
* Ability to post new messages (not with WAP 1.)

Theming and Templating

* Ability to allow or disallow your users to select their own theme.
* Ability to reset all of your members to a certain theme.
* Ability to install a new theme via your administration center.
* Default templates are XHTML 1.0 Transitional and CSS 2.0 compliant.
* Admin can add smileys and smiley sets.
* Members can choose which smiley set they wish to use (or none.)
* Themes can be installed by way of the "latest and greatest themes" panel.
* SSI can have and show layers and the like from the template system.

Posting Features

* Spell Check.
* Quick Reply
o Members can disable it or collapse it.
o Can be used with "Quote".
o Also contains "Spell Check".
* Vast number of "bulletin board codes" to use (including rtl, acronym, and others.)
* Optional editing grace period before a post is shown as modified.
* 'Insert Quote' feature on posting screen to quickly quote previous replies.

Polls

* Can be added or removed to existing topics.
* Ability to set expiration date.
* Ability to hide results till expiration of poll.
* Ability to hide results until after people have voted.
* Ability to determine how many votes a user may cast.
* Polls can have up to 256 options.

Attachments

* Allowed on a per member group or board basis.
* The filename can be encrypted to increase the security (so you can upload .php files, etc.)
* Optional restriction on what filetypes may be uploaded.
* Ability to restrict such that only registered members can view them (disables hotlinking, mostly.)
* Images can be embedded into posts.

Calendar Support

* Shows Birthdays, Events and Holidays.
* Display calendar information on board index.
* Link an existing topic to the calendar.
* Allow only certain members/groups post events.
* Event poster can edit event.
* Events can span multiple days.

Moderation Tools

* Ability to lock and unlock a topic.
o Topics which are locked by an administrator can not unlocked by anyone else.
* Ability to allow members to use moderation on just topics they posted.
* "Report to moderator" link.
* Delete or modify posts.
* Ability to Merge/Split topics.
* Move or delete topics.
* Sticky or unsticky topics.
* Recycle bin/board for all deleted topics and posts.
* Moderation log which shows moderation activity and disallows log removal outside of 1 day.
* AJAX editing:
o Edit a post without page reloads.
o Double click to edit topic subjects on message index.

User Profiles and User Options

* Ability to hide your email address from the public.
* Select their favorite theme among the activated forum themes.
* Select their smiley set from the ones available.
* Email notification
o New topics per board.
o Single topics.
o Private messages.
* Login with 'invisible' mode.
* Options to hide other members' avatars and signatures.
* Ability to download and resize uploaded avatars.
* Personal text, avatar, signature, and all the niceties of forums can be used and are kept up to date in all your posts.

User Resources

* Icons for topics you've posted to.
* Show new replies to your posts.
* Collapsible 'Additional Options' on post screen.
* Ability to view most recent messages.
* List all topics that have new replies since your last visit.
* See who is browsing the same boards or topics as you.
* Topics that span multiple pages have the page numbers listed as well as an "all" link.

 

[Gebreselassie]

Ουδέν σχόλιο...

 

[Χρήστος Ακρατόπουλος]

Το συμπέρασμα Andrew?

(Είμαι δυστυχώς λίγο άσχετος από πλατφόρμες...)

 

[Andrew]

Χρηστο δεν ξερω.(me 2)Το vBulletin δειχνει καλυτερο .
Και στην "πιατσα" γι αυτο λενε.
Ας μας απαντησει καποιος ειδικος.

@Ηoster
Ισχυει αυτο που λεγεται στην "πιατσα" οτι το vBulletin ειναι καλυτερο?

 

[ΓΙΑΝΝΗΣ ΒΑΣΙΛΑΚΗΣ]

Το συμπέρασμα Andrew?

(Είμαι δυστυχώς λίγο άσχετος από πλατφόρμες...)

Δεν εισαι ο μονος

Να δω εμεις πως θα βοηθησουμε σε αυτο . Εγω το προβλημα που αντιμετοπιζω συχνα τελευταια ειναι οτι δεν ανοιγει η σελιδα , θελει πολλεεεεες προσπαθειες.Συνηθως μου βγαζει αυτο το μηνυμα
"Database Error: Server shutdown in progress
File: C:\Inetpub\vhosts\avsite.gr\httpdocs\smf\Sources\TPortal.php
Line: 1431"
Οσο για αυτο που αναφερθηκε με το logo θα ηθελα να μην αλλαξει , αλλα αν αλλαζε μου αρεσει το ιδιο στυλ με τρισδιαστατα γραμματα .

 

[ak1s]

Να πω και την μαγική φράση;
Το vbulletin είναι πιο SEO-friendly...

Δηλαδή, οι μηχανές αναζήτησης το καταλογοποιούν πιο εύκολα, και υπάρχει υποστήριξη για αυτό. Με το SMF μπορείς να κάνεις λίγα πράγματα...

Με το vbulletin Import system, δεν νομίζω να έχουμε πολύ πρόβλημα. Μέχρι τα passwords λέει ότι μπορεί να μεταφέρονται. Λίγο χέρι θέλει βέβαια, όπως όλα αυτά τα πράγματα άλλωστε.

 

[RDoherty]

Ανεξάρτητα από την αλλαγή ή όχι της πλατφόρμας, θα πρότεινα να ενσωματωθεί στους όρους λειτουργίας του φόρουμ το ότι το περιεχόμενό του είναι διαθέσιμο σύμφωνα με το GPL. Πολλοί θα θυμάστε ότι κάπου αλλού κάποιος "ιδιοκτήτης" πήρε όλο το υλικό ενός φόρουμ μαζί του, υλικό ετών, όταν κατάφερε να ρίξει έξω μιαν αρχικά ανθηρή επιχείρηση και να χρεωκοπήσει. Έτσι το υλικό αυτό έχει χαθεί για πάντα χάρη στα καπρίτσια ενός αποτυχημένου.

 

[Andrew]

Να πω και την μαγική φράση;
Το vbulletin είναι πιο SEO-friendly...

Δηλαδή, οι μηχανές αναζήτησης το καταλογοποιούν πιο εύκολα, και υπάρχει υποστήριξη για αυτό. Με το SMF μπορείς να κάνεις λίγα πράγματα...

Με το vbulletin Import system, δεν νομίζω να έχουμε πολύ πρόβλημα. Μέχρι τα passwords λέει ότι μπορεί να μεταφέρονται. Λίγο χέρι θέλει βέβαια, όπως όλα αυτά τα πράγματα άλλωστε

Ακ1 ασε τα Αγγλικα.
Μιλα Ελληνικα.
Ειναι τοσο καλο οσο λενε??
Μας κανει η οχι?
Εισαι υπερ η κατα?
Παιζεις wow η οχι?
Ξερεις ποιος σκοτωσε τον John Aυλακιωτη?
Mιλα!!!!

 

[Cinderella]

Έχτος αυτού, η νέα πλατφόρμα πρέπει να έχει εκείνα δυσκολοχώνευτα τα μπισκοτάκια που αποτρέπουν τους κλώνους. 8)

 

[Gebreselassie]

Αυτό μπορεί να αποτρέψει και όσους μπαίνουν από "ανώνυμους" proxy?

 

[Cinderella]

Αυτό μπορεί να αποτρέψει και όσους μπαίνουν από "ανώνυμους" proxy?

Ναι

 

[Cinderella]

Αλλά εμένα όχι :mrgreen:

 

[ΑΝΔΡΕΑΣ Κ.]

Και αλλες γνωμες παρακαλω πολυ...
Η πλειοψηφια θα υπερισχυσει και μετα δεν θελω να ακουω παραπονα